I’m a mod and I also have to say I agree with both Frisk and Sunlight. I think things also need to be more open to everyone on the site and not everyone running and hiding behind the Mod section on this site.

I'm personally of the mind that there shouldn't even be a mod section on the site. These past few hours have proven that we can be mature and discuss situations together, not just as a few members, but as an entire family on the site. Why must everything be so opaque and hidden behind a veil? Can we not be transparent with everything? The fact that the LSAC is hidden away as if it's some big bad is something that's always confused me. We can do this. We know we can do this. So why the secrecy? Would you not want to do better if things were brought out in the light?

I'm throwing this in really quick but; I agree with something Sin stated a bit ago. I think that having separate Admin duties creates a discourse, and the only time I ever have seen it in use is on Classic. I see no point in having different roles as an Admin, when it only separates each other. It also creates a way for Admins to be ranked and looked down upon, which is unfair. The only time separate jobs help is for LSAC & such. Take Layout Manager; if we took that position down it would create a more interesting aspect of creating contests and such for sitewide Layouts. It would bring more interest to creating Layouts. Why should an Admin be chosen for a specific duty/skill when the main concern is helping the site grow & enforcing structure and stability?

Also, as Sin stated, this isn't a personal attack or any way to demote certain users. We just want to see the site change for the better, and its clear that Staff should more than likely change as well.

Hello Everyone,

For those of you who don’t know me I am called Vulpixkit, but others also know me as Littlekit101 or Scarlette. I’ve been here sine the beginning all the way back in 2008. I’ve seen admins come and go, I’ve seen monarchies fall and the little guy rise. I’ve also been an admin myself for many years, including the top dog Communications Manager.

I’m not here to spill tea, or cause a scene, or create a mess, but I am here to tell the truth.

Admins can do a lot of dirty shoot behind closed doors, it’s true. We can plot, lie, deceive, and set up traps, just to watch certain things fall into place in the name of “protecting the site”. We are sucked up to, given whatever we usually want, and most bend to our wills when asked. 

If anything negative happens you are told by your superiors that it’s for the better of the site, you are told by your fellow admins that it’s for the better of the site, you tell yourself it’s for the better of the site. You are whispered to by your fellow admins and yourself that RUs are only nice for the benefit of your position, you are made out to trust no one, even your fellow admins. If you go against the group decision, separate groups will be made without you. The only people you can trust are those you consider your best friends on the site, so who do you chose as your successor? The only one you trust, you best friend, and the cycle starts all over again.

Admins can also experience burnout, which is a big contributor to the problem. Classic no longer becomes about the users, you dread getting on, dread the drama, dread the need to be perfect or keep everyone’s secrets. You become annoyed and bothered by the problems of your fellow members, they no longer matter to you and become almost ironically funny. You begin hating becoming an admin, you begin hatting the site, but you stay, because your closest friends are your fellow admins encouraging you to never leave, and if you do it has to be someone they approve. Someone who won’t snitch, someone who isn’t weird, someone who won’t disturb the order of things.

Like I said I’m not here to spill tea, I had the amazing luck to be able to work with some of the most selfless and caring admins (and there were a lot! but we are not discussing them right now) but there was still a dark period in a time of one of our rotations of admin groups. I won’t mention when this period was during my time of admin but I will vaguely tell you one of the things we did.

During this period admins had a lot of control, and a lot of people looked up to the admins as they had stopped multiple “hackings” and “threats” that occurred in one of our busiest times. Everyone thought a little too well of themselves, thought higher of themselves then they should have for an RPG cat site full of teenagers and young adults. We thought ourselves and invincible and became angered at anyone who wanted to bring new thoughts or ways onto the site. Unfortunately, an old time member was one of these, someone who actually still rpgs here. She had new and eye opening ideas that just spouted from her like a waterfall. She had mainly stayed in the background as a simply rper, but her creativity was too much to ignore and others took notice. Suddenly she was becoming deputy and later on a leader and then later on a helper mod. She challenged us, how we thought and viewed the site. How the clans functioned and were rped with. She was different, and the admin group declared war on her. You see we had created a list of people who were to be watched, this was a time of deep paranoia because an older banned member had tried to take on multi aliases to continue coming back to the site and rp and take on higher positions. So we watched people we felt were a “threat to the site's future" and this innocent user became one. She was given warnings at any chance, discouraged from being picked for higher positions, and her ideas were encouraged to be scoffed at. I’m not sure if this user realizes who she is, I have apologized to her before after realizing that it was not HER who was the bad guy but US as admins.

The things is this is not uncommon, it will never become uncommon, because these negative admin ideals and thoughts just keep continuing with the older admins teaching the newer admins. It will never be the bad admins that leave first, because you become addicted to the feeling and the friendship your fellow bad admins bring you.

Near the end of my time as communications manager I began to realized how much some of my team were AGAINST the little guys in WCC2 and I began fighting back, I began being the devil’s advocate for all of you but it’s a tiring job when you are already at the end of your rope. You all need to take the reins now, stop waiting for the admins to fix all your problems, this just creates more of them. You as the little guys, you as the actual website need to be your own bosses and work together. You all need to start over and go from the bottom up, because you all have the real power and you need to take it back.


Edit: If you read all of this and just became very offended maybe look inside yourself and ask why. Where you one of those bad admins? Did you encourage some of those bad ideals? Where you apart of a negative event that shouldn't have happened? If you were a good admin then this isn't about your possible toxic actions or behaviors.
When you bring up a repeating pattern of toxic behavior people get insulted

I answered a question stated publicly. And criticized opinions and stated facts from an admins perspective. i dont feel that is personal and I also feel I have every right to be devils advocate in a very one sided conversation.

Vulpix, that's exactly how I've felt. I wanted to fight with everything I had, but at the end of the day, when my term as admin was over, I was exhausted. I'm beyond pleased to see that there are users that want to fight and rise against the toxicity and negativity of those who think as you've explained. There are those past staff and admins who haven't been that way. For them, I'm eternally grateful. But there are those who have. I also agree with Sun. At this point, it seems that many are becoming defensive about their positions, and I'm curious as to why. Perhaps, in a way, you are defensive because you know, without connection and this uprising, that you won't get another position again? I can assure you that so long as this new Classic remains objective and sees fit to act with the site's best interests in mind, you will never have to fear about being pushed to the sidelines. Everyone will be treated equally. Including admins.

FadedEcho I agree that public bashing is not the way to go, but I don’t see how anyone is publicly bashing the Administrators. Pointing out systematic flaws and the past ways in which the Administrators went wrong does not mean we are insulting any current ones.

I really just wanted to be sure everyone realizes our current admin team is not out to get us. They are genuinely good people that are trying their best to make things right. A lot has happened in the past week or so. People are upset and confused and no one really know what is going on. I am personally against resetting the admins as part of the reboot but I am for electing future admins if it can be worked out in a manner that makes things simple and easy for everyone. I feel like one of my biggest flaws as a mod on this site up to this point has been my undue fear of speaking my mind and sharing my true thoughts. The system does need to be changed and there needs to be much more transparency between mods, admins, and RU's I will help try to think of things to help better the way admins are selected but all of the drama and negativity I have seen this past week or two is emotionally draining. I really just want to see the site succeed as a whole and to do that we all need to work together. Things are going to change. Everyone has made it clear that they want change and I don't think that is something that can be ignored but in order for that to happen, we all need to start helping each other and building each other up instead of tearing each other down. I care about classic and every member on this site and it hurts to see how divided we have all become and sometimes it is hard to remember that the admins are a part of our family. They have lives and feelings just like we do. Sometimes the way things are worded might come off like fingers are being pointed even if that is not the actual intent of the writer. I suppose I've said my peace. Just remember I love you all and I'll do anything in my power to help where I can.