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Perhaps this was a mistake, not completely guarding her emotions. After all, as dangerous as it was for Hilo to have such thoughts, such treason was even more so dangerous for the small snow bengal. If Vera found out she had even the slightest of inkling of ambivalence to her aunt's role as leader of the group, Xithymia was sure that the bengal queen would have her head. Why, then, was she trusting her innermost reactions to this cat? If he thought that he could trust her, he was ignorant and naive, simply because there was always a risk in trusting a royal. Did that mean her own secrets were at the same risk?
"Perhaps it does, perhaps it does not," she meowed, her head tilted at an angle that was strange but not uncomfortable. Her gaze was once again as expressionless as it ever was as he crossed the distance between them, despite the small flickerings of interest that were visible if you looked just deep enough into pale blue depths. Was he really going to do this? There was a certain level of respect that he was earning from the small cat. After all, honesty and information were two of the things that she valued most. He seemed to be almost willing to provide both. How strange.
She rolled her shoulders as her head turned again to follow his gaze into the nothingness around them. Of course, it was clear he hadn't been looking at anything in particular, but she couldn't help making sure. A moment later, her gaze was back on his body, studying every muscle, every fur. If nothing less and someone got wind of his treason, he would make an interesting specimen to dissect.
"I will admit, that your treason is the most particularly interesting part about you, Hilo," she mused after a moment. "Yet, it isn't the only part of you that is making me think harder about you than I do most. I would hate to be cliche, but you are different than the mutts around these parts. I cannot help that I'm most curious about what that means for your innermost thoughts. I am, after all, a scientist. I deal with information as a part of my job, and you have a particularly intriguing piece of it."
The problem with being honest was he expected everyone around him to be the same. He had more paws than there were trustworthy cats in this group, and yet he was inclined to believe she was one of them. There was no instance in which she wouldn't turn him in... and yet, her words felt genuine. As hard as he tried, he couldn't quite believe that she wanted to know so she could hurt him; she wanted to know, but just out of simple curiosity. He wanted to believe she was honest and that he was just intriguing enough to keep her from murdering him, though he knew if they ran into each other a few more times she'd see through any veil of mystery that was left. At the end of the day, he wasn't much, just an idealist born into the wrong group.
Hilo sighed, aware his mind was made up.
"Should the cats of a clan not have some measure of control over their own lives, and have a voice in major decisions that will risk their lives? Should a leader not listen to more than a single adviser, or invest in a full council to guide their opinion? Is it a leader's responsibility to suppress dissension in the group, or to allow free thought and new ideas to illuminate? Is it better to live in internal peace under a crumbling bloodline, or to go against one's own morality and take down an inefficient dynasty?"
He began to pace beside her, a couple tail-lengths each way. "I've spoken to everyone who has ever thought about any of this, studied the leaders of groups and clans alike, prized and hated... there's so many more to consult.... but there are so many ideas on what makes a leader, and it varies in the situation, so no wonder we have struggled so greatly so often. Is it better to be brutal and keep cats in line with sheer strength, or to be intelligent and manipulative? Is it possible for a cat to be a good leader, or does the position by nature corrupt a cat's soul? These are the riddles that keep me up at night, Xi," he told her, coming to halt in front of here, where she could see the fever-bright desperation in his dark eyes, the passion and the trouble. "I don't care for revolution, and I had no plans to try and change anything without our League... but these rules of ascension and justice, these are what haunt me."
Hilo laughed again, sorely, in recognition of how pathetic he must sound.
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POSTEDNov 24, 2018 22:34:14 GMT -5 TO primal instinct
Trust and honesty were values left for groups like SpringClan. Hilo should be smarter than that, should know better than expect such values from cats who could see little past their own nose. Self-interest was a characteristic of every spinless creature of the League, and self-interest and trust seldom went hand in hand. Perhaps this was why she trusted no one. She was honest with most, though. There was no reason for her not to be. Perhaps that was due to her position. She was allowed more room to say what was on her mind, and she saw no harm in doing that. The only exception to her honestly came when it was time to work. If, in her studies, she needed to lie, it was false to assume she was a saint, and lying was not against a hidden moral compass. She just didn't do it often.
"Your philosophy will get yourself killed, dearest tom," she meowed simply, flicking his tail. "I suppose, though, the answers to the questions of life depend on how one wants to lead. The old saying is that it is better to be feared than love. It is in fear that power truly flourishes. Would this not be the most key dimension in keeping a dynasty going? The rule of fear is the rule that Vera is most comfortable with. It was bred into her with meticulous nature, and it has yet to fail her. Is it perhaps the best? Time will tell."
"As for morality, what, truly, is morality? Is any of this moral, the very structure that we were in? Even if we were run as a democracy as you fantasize about, would that prove a sense of right and wrong? Or would the rule of the masses be just as corrupt as a leader who's claws are just a little too sharp? I believe that there is no such thing as goodness in this world. There is no evil, either. Power does not exaserbate the presence of either." She paused for a moment. "And what is justice? Forcing what one believes onto another feline? Is that just?"
"I fear for you that there are few answers to your questions, and each question only leads to more. Such is the result of trying to think, to learn, to understand Perhaps, then, it is better not to think at all."
Well, she didn't kill him right then and there, so he took that as a good sign. He waited impatiently for her to stop speaking so he could answer, opening his mouth several times but never interrupting: as much as he wanted to answer right away, he wanted to listen. Not only was she not disagreeing, but she was even answering and asking her own questions, like he might have hoped only in the most wild of dreams.
"We all die for something. It might sound foolish to everyone else, but I wouldn't mind going down for my thoughts." Hilo smiled a little. He leaned in closer, his eyes flashing in excitement. "There is no answer to the question, or else there would be no freedom, just everyone thinking in the same patterns at the same time, with all of the world as their judge. But doesn't it fascinate you, to think of it? So many cats decide these questions on their own, without realizing there is another way; others never consider them at all. Think of all the problems that could be avoided if we thought more before we chose to act. And to see how ideas change! I'd love to speak to someone in their youth and their old age and see if everyone moves toward the same conclusions, or stays on their own path." He sighed contently just thinking of it.
"I used to think that ruling by fear was a coward's way of never letting themselves take the risk of getting hurt, but well... Vera taught me otherwise, once I started to look. I don't always quite agree with her - don't tell her I said that, she'll take it the wrong way, you know - but she is a very effective leader and I don't think anyone could say she's a coward. So clearly, that was wrong, but to think if she hadn't been there to show me the error in that line of thinking..." Hilo was speaking quicker as he jumped from thought to thought. For a moment, he was no longer collected; he was desperate to show her how he felt.
"Doesn't there have to be some good and evil, though? If a cat dies, that is a whole existence erased, a legacy ended, opportunities wasted... there must be something moral in that, though I could not tell you if it is true evil or if there is some balance restored to the world."
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POSTEDNov 30, 2018 21:53:06 GMT -5 TO primal instinct
It would have been too easy for her to kill him. Well, maybe not. He had a size advantage on her, as the mage had always been a relatively small creature. Even then, though, all she would need to do would be to mix a herb into his prey for such a statement. Yet, she had no intention on doing such. In fact, his responses had the opposite effect on her. It did not make her feel any more murderous than normal, but it made her even more determined to pursue the creature to be her partner. Her ear flicked at the thought. Of course, she had little room for romance, but eventually, she would have to pick a mate, if only to produce the next mage. His words made her choice rather clear; he would be the one. She would not say that, though. Not yet.
"I suppose you are right. What is born must die," she nodded. She thought for a moment about her lab, and the creatures that had died in the name of science. She had no remorse for any of them, under that principle exactly. They would have died under other conditions eventually, and at least now, their lives meant something. "You might as well die for something in which you are impassioned." A look flashed through her eyes, but it was of indeterminate nature. "Is freedom ideal?" she posed when he suggested the word. "Are any of us truly free? Or do we walk the footsteps in which fate has left us pre-destined to walk?" Perhaps she said this simply to ignore the rest of the nonsense that he said before his contented sigh. "Would speaking to the two ages really prove any sort of difference?"
"I have no reason to allow the Nemesis to know that you used to think she was subpar in her skills," she meowed with a noise that could almost be considered a laugh. "Perhaps she is an exception to the rule? An outlier? Perhaps your rule that an iron claw relies on cowardice and fear of loss of status is not permanently broken by her reign. Perhaps, she, too, is a coward in her own way, so afraid of uprising that she must run the rivers of this group red." She noticed his elevation in tone and speed of his words, and she smiled at him a smile that was perhaps the first genuine smile that she had ever given to a cat she was not forcing to eat nightlock.
"Does there? What makes you think so? Can we not exist on a plane of morally grey? Let me pose myself as an example. I have done research into asphyxiation that includes seeing how long a feline can be without a direct flow of oxygen to the brain before they die. There is blood on my paws. That would make me evil, hmm? Yet, I do it for science, and in my research I look to find ways to use this knowledge for the good of the clan. That would would make the end product one of morality; I do my research to better the League. In a dichtonomy, where, then, would I fall? Am I good, or am I evil?"
In all places, it was in his own savage homeland he had finally found another philosopher! Whether she was as engrossed in the questions as he was didn't matter; she could answer and craft her own with a level of intelligence no other cat he met could. The clever cats were unconcerned, the interested too dull to keep up with him, and everyone else was a mixture of both. Who would have thought their strange Mage would be the one that would accept his treason and reciprocate it? It was dangerous for her to discuss this as well - though far less so, given her status and blood relations.
"Fate?" Hilo echoed, with a goofy shock-induced grin plastered across his features. "I have found no proof of any fate in any of my research. Cats are free, yes; free to make their own doom, free to make their own mistakes. Fate... no, there could be no reason for it. That would mean everything has a reason, other than a cat's motivation; that would mean everything is moving toward a central endgoal, and that all life and consequence is without meaning, just another step on the path. We would be spectators, watching our own life helplessly, prisoners locked in our own minds." He had to take a second to backtrack to her question about the ages. "Of course! If cats are free to learn and grow, they must take steps down a true understanding of something, through their mistakes and their successes. They'll gain knowledge more than they had at the start."
His words continued to run together as he was encouraged by her smile and his own energy. "That was my first thought, but I decided it doesn't make much sense either. An empire ruled by fear... if it was inefficient, surely it would have collapsed by now. We would have few leaders that try to rule through fear as their ancestors proved it was not worthwhile, but instead, we've been seeing more." Her example only took him a moment of pause before he had his answer. "That depends on the way it ends, of course! Who are we to judge morality as it stands right now? Your morality is your actions, not your thoughts, but it is really the consequences of your actions we are concerned with. If your science saves lives, you will be commended as a cat that was in a touch decision, but ultimately made the morally right choice... but if you harm more than you save, they will see you as the opposite. Can we really say we are moral right now, or only when we are done and looking back?"
That was another flaw of Hilo's - the more he spoke, the more he contradicted himself. Morality especially had always perplexed him in a clan like this, and on any given day he would change how he thought of it. Some days made more sense than others - usually the times when he was calm, not tripping over his words in his eagerness to speak, realizing too late that he wasn't quite making sense.
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Xithymia didn't consider herself a philosopher, and there was a part of her that probably would have smacked him had she known that he thought of her that way. She was a eline who was critical about the world around her, that was all. However, she would have agreed that she was more intelligent than most. It was the only thing that she strived for in live: intelligence. It was to her what power was for most felines. It was her seductress, the focal point of any sin the feline would ever commit. In a way, she was Eve, ready to at any time to take a bite into the fruit of knowledge. Her tail flicked at the thought.
"No reason for fate?" she meowed with a flick of her tail. "Part of me disagrees. Perhaps that is because fate has led my life to all of the heights in which it has received. It was my fate from birth to bare the wounds and the jobs in which I am dedicated to. It was of no free will of my own. I was brought into the world, and Piroska decided from my first breath that I was to be the mage. Do you believe, the, that I had any chance of denying the role in which it appears to me I was predestined?" She blinked her emotionless eyes. "Is the pursuit of everyone's life, then, knowledge?"
She then considered the words that tumbled out of his mouth. Although his quickened in pace, she found no such excitement in the conversation. She was able to easily contain herself, but perhaps that was simply her nature. "Is morality a desired quality? Even if it is only found later in life, is it something worth even striving for?"
"Don't be so dramatic, Xi," he answered with a roll of his eyes. "That wasn't fate. You don't have to be a Shaman if that isn't what you want, regardless of what some 'fate' claims. It wasn't your choice to be Mage, no: it was your mother's. Piroska made the decision to give you this job. All she did was ask and give it to you, there was no Greater Force than compelled you into the position... and if you tried to leave, there would be little enough to stop you. A fate would be inescapable, and you'd end up here no matter what: but that isn't how life works, is it? You can walk away if you'd like. You can leave, you can simply refuse to treat anyone... or you could end it all yourself. That's not fate, that's just choice."
His head tilted as he considered her other questions. "I don't see why life can't be a pursuit of knowledge. It's just different knowledge that everyone seeks: science or philosophy or knowledge of how to properly hunt or efficiently kill. How to raise a family and give your offspring the best chance. As for morality, I think so. I think everyone wants to use their knowledge best, and leave the right legacy. Even a tyrant must justify their actions for the future, right? A murder today could save a life tomorrow. Maybe maintaining that balance is moral, because it could help someone else."