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Life had been a series of chaos and twists and turns recently. There were still moments Pygmyprawn wondered how she, and her clanmates, were still alive. Some of them still suffered through the sickness, but somehow they made it through the flood. She was grateful, mostly. Then came Chim's disappearance. She had worried and searched day and night for him. Then, when he returned and found Doestar dead, she had stayed by his side and watched over him. It was clear through her darkened eyes and wobbly stance that she had been awake for far too long, but she couldn't quit worrying about him. This was her life. She would never not think about him. It almost made her angry. Each day, the hurt and feelings that piled in her chest threatened to overflow. She couldn't tell him and unload her feelings on him. She just couldn't. The possibility of making his life more stressful or even losing him as a friend always yanked her back into the harsh reality. It was unrequited love... and it threatened to devour her at times.
Even then, she watched him silently, her round, yellow-moon eyes hiding the angst and concern. What was he thinking? How could she help him? The feeling of utter helplessness irritated her to no end. After a few more long moments, she glanced away and deciding to preoccupy herself with grooming her wiry coat that hadn't been touched since his return. Just don't think. He'll be okay. He has to be.
He could feel her eyes on him. Ever since he'd returned to SummerClan, there was always someone watching. His brother, his sister, his best friend, there was always someone there, watching, waiting -- waiting for him to fall apart, to give in and collapse and never get up again, like he did every time someone died, when he lost his mate and his mother and his leader and his eye. This was worse, in some ways, this was Doestar, and for a fleeting moment when he fled to the clan he thought he might really have found happiness, found someone he could spend the rest of his life with.
But he was gone, and all he felt was numb.
Strangely, he was okay. And that felt wrong. After everything that had happened recently it didn't surprise him to lose this too, but it hurt not to be mourning the leader as fiercely as he should have. He wanted to keen and give up and feel something, anything, but he was drained. It was just one more hit and he'd already taken so many.
Chim -- Chimerahunt? Chimerastar? There hadn't been time to officially welcome him to the clan, but he supposed he must be returning to his old name now -- gazed around at the strangers in the camp and felt nothing for them either. His family had lived here, but he never had. He had lived in the grove in the trees where the blanket lay and the patrols ignored, where flowers wove between the branches and a silly little crown had sat upon his head. Where he had smiled and laughed like he was someone else entirely, and maybe he had been. He stared at the untouched prey at his paws and finally felt a glimmer of a vast sadness inside of him, only grown bigger with his recent loss.
He stood up abruptly and turned away and headed for the camp exit, ragged ginger ears pilled back against his skull. He flicked a side glance at Pygmyprawn as he passed, tilted his head slightly in invitation, c'mere with me, seemingly unaware that she was in desperate need of self-care and a nap. He needed normality, he needed to hunt or talk or just pretend that nothing had changed, he needed to forget.
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Post by simplylight on Sept 12, 2019 13:40:37 GMT -5
From in between futile licks at an overly-tangled coat she caught his gesture just barely before she turned back to her pointless task. It was enough, though. Just that moment felt like a little awakening. When was the last time they had gone for a walk? It had been a while. It was something she so desperately needed. In the span of a few days, she had lost everything. Her kits had been washed away with the flood, probably dead. Wright, their father and her friend, had left to search from them but he was badly injured and sick. She couldn't get him to accept reality, though. And then, Chim hadn't returned. For days she couldn't move, and now he was here, beckoning for her to join him on a walk she so desperately missed and needed. Selfishly, she wanted to keep this. Selfishly she felt no remorse for the Summerclan leader, or Wright. She knew she should feel grief. Maybe it was the shock of it all? Cavernkit, Seakit, Treasurekit... Did they make it to that so-called Starclan? Was Chim going to stay after all the hurt he had been through? Was she going to lose everything again?
Pygmyprawn fought the depressing thoughts as she stood and made her way over to him. For a second, it took all her strength not to wail out loud. Normality was quite a bittersweet desire for the both of them. "These cats are so giddy." She remarked snarkily after several moments of silence. Despite the cruel recent events, that was something she would have said anyways. Summerclan certainly lived up to it's name of happy-go-lucky characters. It weirded her out a little.
As she fell in step beside him, he didn't know what to say. What's left, after everything they've been through? He almost wanted to apologize -- none of this would have happened to her if she hadn't come with him after the prison. If he'd kept to himself and didn't invite her to come home with him, she would have gone her own way, and then maybe she'd have something more; maybe she wouldn't be as happy as she had been with Wright, but at least then she'd be safe, and not suffering the grief of his loss. Until that moment, he hadn't thought much about her losses, been too wrapped up in his own, but he was startled to realize she'd lost even more than he had.
Then she spoke, and he was so surprised he smiled ever so slightly. "I always thought Oceanscent and Coralreef were insane to be so joyful all the time, but really, they were just in the wrong clan. They'll love it around here. Most of you will."
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Post by simplylight on Sept 12, 2019 16:43:25 GMT -5
There is was, a small smile. It was off-putting, but warm like a long, lost friend. Glancing around once more at the strange new clan, she let out a huff of amusement at the thought. Would she ever turn into one of those cheery, fragile little flowers? No way. What she didn't realize is that she was more fragile than she thought. Her cracks were like the ones on the inside of a cup. You can't see them unless you look inside. "If I ever start dancing around and singing songs about warm breezes and butterflies be sure to give me a good whack between the ears, alright?" He was right, though. There were several members of Waterclan that would feel at home in the friendly group. Coralreef, Squirrelpool, the kits, they would all love it. Pygmyprawn was different, in a way. Her home was no where except near him, which was something she would never admit to. "It's odd, huh? Our territory disappears yet we are all able to move together as one massive, annoying flock. As much as I hate to admit it, I couldn't imagine life without these noisy furballs." A soft, distant smile played on her muzzle for a second. "Now look what you've done to me. I would have never gotten this mushy over a bunch of cats before you showed up." She gave him a sideways, sarcastic glance and a little shake of her head.
"Hey," he objected, "I'm not the reason you're soft like the rest of them, that's all you. I couldn't care less if I ever saw most of them again." He was surprised to know that was a lie. Even the clanmates he wasn't close with had meant something to him, and he would miss them all if he had stayed away. Though a part of him tugged at his paws to flee and leave it all behind, stop looking around this place full of memories, he would struggle to leave his family behind. After all they had done for him, how could he? He tilted his head and glanced her over, speculative. "I don't know, Pygmyprawn. I think you'd really enjoy running about with butterflies in your fur; how could I disrupt that? I'll just leave you be with the rest of them, and go my on way."
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Post by simplylight on Sept 13, 2019 11:28:10 GMT -5
Yeah, she didn't believe that for a second and it showed by the look of amusement and curiosity that crossed her face for a moment. He came back for a reason, right? At least, that is what she had continued to tell herself from the moment he returned. Her pelt itched at the thought of running around all peppy and friendly and whatnot. She just couldn't imagine it, especially after the events that just recently wrecked a part of her soul. "I should scuff your ear for saying that, but I'm too tired right now." She huffed, glaring over at him. "Just know it'll be coming when you least expect it." As she finished her sentence, she began to take in the surroundings of the Summerclan territory. It was strange and unfamiliar, but somehow she still felt at peace next to him. The thought almost made her cheeks burn. She had no right to continue loving him after the trauma he had been through. She was just an imposter on that area of his life, and she would have to be okay with that. Pygmyprawn sighed as another wildflower got caught in her fur. "This place is so strange. I wonder sometimes if it'll ever feel like home." She admitted, brushing it away with her nose.
He snorted, casting a wary glance at her paw in case she was lying and going to cuff him now, but when she didn't he lapsed back into the comfortable silence. When she spoke again his ears flicked back. "I hope not," he replied frankly. "At least, for me. This place will never be my home. It can't be, because I already have a home." He had seen the desolation left in his territory, seem it was irreparable, but he simply did not care. WaterClan was his home, and if his clanmates had not dragged him away, he might still be there. One cat, maybe, could live there, once the land started to heal and the prey returned. Days like today he was still tempted to return. "Maybe it will be your home, though," he added, an afterthought, as if he'd just remembered again that she hadn't lived in his clan longer. It felt like he'd known her forever; had it really only been a few moons? "You can finally settle down."
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Post by simplylight on Sept 16, 2019 10:33:14 GMT -5
She glared over at him and fought the urge to unleash all of her feelings right then in there. Her home could never be anywhere except with him! She had come to accept that reality a long time ago. Her whole relationship with Wright was just to see if she could make it happen, to see if she could finally find peace outside of Chim. It was wrong and she was wrong. There was no way around it. "You know I won't." She countered after a moment. "I've always been on the move. The first time I felt at home was--" With you. "Ah nevermind." She turned her face away, hiding the mad blush that threatened to peek through her cheeks. "You know this clan is too bright for me anyways. I like a little gloom in my life, obviously." Pygmy snorted, butting him in the side with her shoulder, while hoping to cover up her embarrassment. "And don't you think about running off to that flooded territory by yourself."
"Mmm," he said absently, but he was watching her closely now. His brow furrowed as he puzzled over her, searching her face now, and finally seeing the little shifts in details he had missed before: the darkness in her eyes, the droop of her whiskers, the sheer exhaustion. How long had it been since she truly slept? He had grown used to sleepless nights, but he wasn't used to seeing those same signs on his friend. The first time I felt a home was, she told him, changed her mind, realized her mistake; what couldn't she tell him? He wasn't used to Pygmyprawn keeping secrets from him. There were always things he did not know, but that was different. He didn't understand what had changed, unless she was ashamed of the truth, but his scrutinizing gaze couldn't find the answer.
"-- the Regime," he finally finished for her, not responding to her push, focused all on her. "You haven't felt at home anywhere since I took you with me, have you?" He let out a long, slow breath. Had he ruined things all the way back then?
Post by simplylight on Sept 26, 2019 14:36:12 GMT -5
"You haven't felt at home anywhere since I took you with me, have you?"
"No-- I." She fought for the words while fighting against words all at the same time. It all came tumbling down in her memories: wandering alone in the wilderness since she should even remember, following this strange cat to the Regime, getting locked up in a prison with him, finding a best friend and falling in love, moving to Waterclan, ...Doestar, having kits with a stranger that became a friend then died, and now this. Her stability had always wavered, emotionally and physically. She had jumped from location to location, friend to friend, but then she suddenly found stability in one of the most unstable characters. Why did it happen this way? She let out a sigh and fought the emotional urge to lean against him and let out all her woes and feelings. What a dumb thing to do. Pygmyprawn had never been that lovey-dovey, wishy-washy type. She had always been independent and quick to hold her own. It irritated her to be this way, all caught up in the feels like a love-sick mouse.
"It's not true, what you think. You did not ruin my life." She stated bluntly, forcing the courage to meet his gaze. "I know you and I know you would think that, but it's not true." Her heart thumped quite rudely in her chest and she took a deep breath to settle it. "I've never had a home, Chim. For my whole life since I can remember I just existed and floated around like a little bitter cloud. I didn't find home, didn't know what home meant, until I..." The truth. "..met you. You're the only home I've ever known."
Ugh what a cheesy thing to say. But how was she to keep avoiding it? Slowly that tightly closed heart was opening up and it made her cringe. How could she unload anything more than her friendship on him? He deserved much more. He deserved Doestar by his side and a best friend that would not hurt him more with her own selfish feelings. How dare her. She loved him and hated herself for it.
Edited Sept 26, 2019 14:37:22 GMT -5 By simplylight
He'd seen the worries dragging her paws, and it took such courage for her to confess, he knew this must be the secret she had been keeping so close to her chest. He was relieved to have it out in the open now, where his mind could not run wild with theories. But he didn't still understand the trouble to begin with. He had never been someone's home before, he wasn't entirely sure what that even meant, but it didn't sound like a bad thing. Should he be upset that she felt comfortable around him? Maybe he was understanding her wrong, and she feared he would be angry at her for staying in his clan for so long without falling in love with it.
But no. She knew him better than that; he had as many issues with his home as anyone else did, maybe even more, if anyone understood, it would be him. And she already admitted she didn't think this place was home, but she hadn't left, hadn't continued her wandering. Now that he thought about it, she hadn't left him once since they met. She was a traveler, so why hadn't she gone? Her kits had only tethered her to the clan recently; before then, she could have left anytime she pleased, she could still leave now even. So why did she stay? He was on the verge of a breakthrough, he could feel it, like his toes dangled over a cliff and brushed the open air, and all he had to do was step in and take a look.
And maybe a part of him already knew, because he shied away, he backed away from the edge. His half-gaze lowered to the space before his paws, and when he spoke his voice was softer, uncertain, despite his best efforts at a joke. "Yeah, well, I still don't think you know what 'home' means. It's a place where you live, Pygmyprawn, not some sour old rat you found rotting in a hole."
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Post by simplylight on Oct 3, 2019 20:31:05 GMT -5
Pygmyprawn stared at him for a moment, half in shock, quarter in irritation, and the other quarter in humor. How in Starclan's green earth did he... Miss that? She knew she shouldn't question it. Maybe he did catch it but decided to avoid it altogether? She should be happy, truthfully. His attempt at a joke should have reassured her that it was fine, she didn't mess up. Just never bring it up again. That is what she should have felt and thought, but instead it pierced a thin hole in her chest like a needle into clay. She wondered silently if she was going to turn into an urchin with how many barbs had been shot into her recently. It was all her fault. Her lack of control when it came to her emotions stuck them there. She couldn't blame Chim, or Wright, or Starclan. It was all herself. Her eyes stung furiously as she refused any hint of tears to form in her eyes. She could not hurt him anymore with her own pain.
The mottled she-cat laughed weakly and gave him a butt on the shoulder with her head. She lingered there for a moment, letting his familiar scent both comfort her and drive the needle deeper. There was a wall of closeness that she couldn't cross. "Of course, silly me." She answered half-humorously with a distance in her voice she didn't mean to reveal. No, you can't be this way. You must be normal. Don't be selfish. Ah, that familiar voice echoed in her head. She had gotten so used to hearing that inner voice that scolded her the minute she showed any emotion but anger. That annoying, but honest voice. "Do you think you will stay here?" She asked as an attempt to re-direct the subject.
He hadn't said much at all, but like usual, he had said the wrong thing. He simply didn't know what the right answer was, but he wished he did; she could laugh all she wanted but he knew better. Chim wasn't very good at reading cats he didn't know, strangers always acted in ways he didn't expect, had different quirks he wasn't used to seeing, and he was hopeless sometimes at picking up on the signals. But the cats he'd grown up with, the cats he was close to, he could read them; after so many moons in isolation with her, he could sense Pygmyprawn's unhappiness, and he hated it. All this time together made him perceptive to the little things that were off about her now, the distance and the effort in her voice, but he never learned how to fix it. The only way to make her feel better he could think of was to change what he'd said, but how could he, when he had no idea what she wanted him to say?
"I don't know," he admitted quietly. "Everyone else lives here now, most of the clan anyway, but they're all I have here. Not even Doestar. I don't have-- I don't even have the memory of him to keep me company, we only met once here. The flowers aren't blooming anymore, though, and his soft-pelt is gone." Doestar had never told him the name of the strange object he'd brought from his kittypet home, so he had to find his own words to describe the blanket. "But I don't have anywhere else to go. I mean, I can always go to the League," he shifted uncomfortably, looking away, "but I don't think I would fit in there." Dante E'tan had offered to let him stay there, welcomed him to return even, but Chim had little desire to return to that dark land. He had barely even mentioned his little detour on the way home from the floods before now.
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Post by simplylight on Oct 5, 2019 18:32:32 GMT -5
Sorrow threatened to pool from her tightly closed chest as he spoke, each word like another quill. How did she get to this point? You should be comforting him, you selfish cat. With her ears laid back on her head her eyes trailed to the ground where tears threatened to rain down. It felt like the flood that had torn apart their homeland was now manifesting in her small, bony body. What could she say? Her throat was choked of words and raw from holding it all in. Why did he have to die? She had been able to hide her feelings and simply find happiness for Chim knowing that he was content. But now what? There were so many questions to life that she could feel a headache creeping it's way into her skull.
"I-I'm sorry." She coughed out finally, her voice unusually quiet and raw.
I'm sorry I love you. I'm sorry that I am not gentle and soft. I'm sorry that I'm awkward and angry. I'm sorry I'm not him. Why did he have to die? Why couldn't it have been me instead?
Her eyes lifted to his and she held his gaze for several moments before continuing. "I wish it had been me. Your happiness is all I ever wanted. He...I could never give you what he did. Why did I not protect him for you? To see you at peace and so carefree was more than enough for me. That's all I could ever ask for." She knew she was rambling. Her words probably didn't make sense, but it was the flood spilling over the sides of the walls she had built so carefully. If he knew the full truth, what would he do? Would he run away? It frightened her. "Please... please don't leave me." There it was. It was like a popping sensation in her chest. "I love you."
He had no reference point. This didn't happen to cats like him, he knew that, he had accepted it into his heart many moons ago; cats did not love someone like him, he wouldn't let them try. You couldn't love a cat if you didn't let them come close, and he never did, not even his leader or his friends or even Doestar, that sweet deputy who pranced into his camp and swept him away. They hadn't been close, he hadn't really seen, the other leader loved unconditionally without even knowing him, feelings he had struggled to return before they ran out of time. It was one of the simplest facts of his life, he did not let other cats know him, he let them see glimpses but he was always on guard, a little wary, unable to completely relax, because he knew better.
Except he did let someone in. In the privacy of his prison, that sweet breath of relief when he escaped his clan, he had let Pygmyprawn in; slowly at first, and then in their solution more and more. By the time he was leading his clan again she knew him, he had let her in unknowingly, and it had led them here. And here... he was at a loss. What could he say? He didn't want to lose his best friend, he couldn't, after everything, she would be the one to break him. But there was nothing else he could do.
Then— take a gamble and do what’s right for you.
Ghosttoad's cryptic message when he last saw him, when he gave him life. A life of happiness, like some sick joke. Had he known, back then, Chim would ruin his own clan? That he would destroy the only home he had ever known? WaterClan's demise, Doestar's death, they had left him nothing. It had left him with nothing but freedom to finally live his own life without giving it up to his clan's demands, without breaking himself so his clan could survive, to just be himself. Do what's right for you. How was he supposed to know what to do? After all these moons, he doubted anything would make him happy.
And then. Clarity.
So I will grant you a life to allow you not to be deceived, even by yourself.
Even by yourself.
Blakelystar's gift.
He moved into the space between them, lowered his head until they were a hair-length apart; his half-gaze was unfathomable as he tilted his head slightly, memorizing every detail of her. "I'm not," he told her softly, his brow creased. "I'm not sorry. You think I'd give up my best friend for some sunny boy? Not a chance."
Edited Oct 6, 2019 1:52:53 GMT -5 By Cleaver | Reason: missed a word like usual
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Post by simplylight on Oct 8, 2019 10:41:54 GMT -5
Her breath hitched in her throat as he drew closer. But is that all I am? A best friend? She felt confusion and relief all at the same time. It overwhelmed her how much emotion could be felt at once. Her whole life she had spent bitter at the world. She was sharp-tongued, had a nasty temper at times yet he still chose to stay with her? But why? "Why? Why would you stay after all the trouble I've put you through? I should have been a good friend, but inside I was jealous. I wanted your attention. How could you still choose me after I showed all those ugly emotions?" The questions were words she spoke out loud for once. She had hidden all that inner dialogue away, locked it, and buried it underground. What probably sounded like mindless rambling was real, raw questions she had been asking herself for several moons now. It was time that she voiced them, but would she be fine if he never loved her the way he had others? The way he had loved Doestar? She had made a vow to be fine with just friendship long ago, and she was determined to stick with it. She had to. He was her home.
Pygmyprawn's eyes lifted and locked with his and, once again, she found it difficult to breathe. "How do you see me, Chim?" She knew the answer like she knew her own paws. A good friend. A part of her just needed him to say it. She needed that hope of something more to die so that she could go back to whatever kind of normal she trusted existed after closure. The thought of losing him over such a rash question struck fear in her chest, but she didn't let it show.
He turned his head slightly away to the side and let out a little huff of a derisive laugh, upset with himself for knowing the right answer this time, and being unable to say it. "I don't know, Pygmyprawn. You're my best friend, but— beyond that? I don't know." He shook his head, annoyed by his own ineptitude at sorting through his feelings, but he'd been blindsided and he needed more time to think, to process. He wanted to give her a fair answer, the right answer, but it was all too complicated now, and that wasn't important— what mattered right now was her, and he fiercely jerked his head up to look intently back at her.
"I do know I need you. I could've have made it this far without you," he told her. "I thought you were going to leave, like— well, everyone. When I was a new leader, and Violetstar and my mother had just died, and everything had gone to hell, I was ready to give up. But then we went out, just for a bit, and...." he shrugged helplessly with a tiny smile, ".... it just. Helped. I never saw you as a problem, Pygmyprawn, you were never trouble, you were there for me when I needed you. And I wasn't."
Chim sighed, his brow creasing as he fought for the right words— why was he always so inarticulate? As if he didn't have enough problems already, he couldn't even speak straight— couldn't think straight either, for what it was worth. One of these days I'll remember to think before I start to speak, I must sound like a complete fool. "What I'm trying to say is, I don't want to lose you, okay?" Frustrated, he clenched his jaw and stared at the ground.
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Post by simplylight on Oct 19, 2019 23:21:07 GMT -5
Her eyes met his, surprised by his sudden fierceness. While it wasn't the exact answer her heart wanted, it was enough for her. Just to know that he wanted her around sent a blush to her cheeks that she furiously tried to hide by butting her head against his shoulder. "Silly, Chim." She huffed weakly, but happily. The pain and the comfort that enveloped her was too much to process. She knew she had unleashed a loaded question on him, but the most important thing happened. She said it...and he didn't run away. Maybe he didn't love her, or didn't know, but at least she finally got a piece of that heavy load off her shoulders. Pygmyprawn knew that her heart would never be satisfied, but she couldn't bare the thought of being without him completely. The reality that he felt the same eased that hurt.
"I would never leave you." She meowed again, a hint of her normal edge returning to her voice. "I don't think you would know how to feed yourself without me. Who else is going to make sure meat stays on those bones."
Once she was sure the blush was gone, she stepped back and met his gaze again. "You've been by my side since we met in that stinking pit. I needed you then, Chim, and I need you now. I don't think there will come a time when I don't stop needing you. We may be the most helpless cats in all the clans, but I'm...so happy being with you." Happy was not a word she thought she would ever describe herself. He was the only happiness she had ever known, and she was sure she'd ever know, which was incredibly ironic. Even if he didn't ever feel that kind of sappy, giddy love for her the way he did with Doestar, even if caused more pain, she couldn't live without him. Ever.
As she butted against him he glanced up briefly, then tentatively leaned closer and rested his chin between her ears, and when she didn't flinch away, gently pulled her closer against his chest. Without being certain of their boundaries now he didn't want to push anything, but he felt a rush of relief that she didn't seem too upset with his answer, and maybe he still had a chance. It was impulsive to hold her close, maybe, but she'd reached for him first and for once he knew this was hard for her and was it really so bad to try to comfort her? He did it reassure her, but he felt a flood of calm at the contact as well; he could blame the former leader for reminding him how sweet it could be to be so close to another cat.
Chim rumbled in amusement, knowing she was right, and if there wasn't anyone looking after he would starve to death before the moon was out. Hadn't he been in the best shape of his life when he was in prison with her and the Regime tending to him? As she pulled away he held her gaze again, thinking how wrong and backwards it was that she could ever need him.
"How long have you... felt this way?" he ventured cautiously, with a slight tilt of his head as his concerned brow furrowed again. "You never said anything." The way she spoke made it sound like she had feelings for him ever since then, but moons had passed, surely she would have said something? Had she, and he simply missed it? It wouldn't be the first time he missed something obvious, especially before Doestar he rarely assumed cats felt.... remotely like that toward him.